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	<title>Comments on: Car Scale Vs Human Scale Transportation</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Amelie</title>
		<link>http://www.aashe.org/blog/campus-operations/its-official-parking-spaces-outnumber-people#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Amelie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should check out goloco.com.  It matches up carpoolers and calculates total miles saved + comes as a facebook application. Might work for senior citizens too though they will need some computer knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should check out goloco.com.  It matches up carpoolers and calculates total miles saved + comes as a facebook application. Might work for senior citizens too though they will need some computer knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Satin</title>
		<link>http://www.aashe.org/blog/campus-operations/its-official-parking-spaces-outnumber-people#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Satin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, big cities such as New York, are the places where people do much better without a car.  In a big city, many people choose to walk, bike or use public transportation because parking is expensive and driving and parking is often a hassle.  

I also wanted to comment on how relying less on cars, as a society,  would help non-drivers such as senior citizens.  Our population is aging rapidly.  Thus, providing suitable transportation for senior citizens who can no longer drive is a significant problem which must be addressed.  In fact, there is a growing organization called the Independent Transportation Network (ITN), http://www.itnamerica.org/ which addresses this problem, still focusing on the centrality of the automobile.  In fact, ITN argues that because the automobile is so central to mobility in our society, we must ensure that senior citizens continue to have access to automobile transportation even if they will be doing so as a passenger.  This organizations' literature points out that senior citizens who cannot drive and either do not have public transportation options or do not use public transportation due to lack of mobility or inconvenience, become unnecessarily isolated and inactive.  Thus, ITN implements a system in which senior citizens can schedule rides by making a reservation with their transportation service which uses a combination of paid and volunteer drivers.  

Making a paradigm shift in which our society becomes less "car centric" would address environmental concerns as well as the needs of our growing senior citizen population and other segments of our population who either cannot or do not wish to drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, big cities such as New York, are the places where people do much better without a car.  In a big city, many people choose to walk, bike or use public transportation because parking is expensive and driving and parking is often a hassle.  </p>
<p>I also wanted to comment on how relying less on cars, as a society,  would help non-drivers such as senior citizens.  Our population is aging rapidly.  Thus, providing suitable transportation for senior citizens who can no longer drive is a significant problem which must be addressed.  In fact, there is a growing organization called the Independent Transportation Network (ITN), <a href="http://www.itnamerica.org/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.itnamerica.org/?referer=');">http://www.itnamerica.org/</a> which addresses this problem, still focusing on the centrality of the automobile.  In fact, ITN argues that because the automobile is so central to mobility in our society, we must ensure that senior citizens continue to have access to automobile transportation even if they will be doing so as a passenger.  This organizations&#8217; literature points out that senior citizens who cannot drive and either do not have public transportation options or do not use public transportation due to lack of mobility or inconvenience, become unnecessarily isolated and inactive.  Thus, ITN implements a system in which senior citizens can schedule rides by making a reservation with their transportation service which uses a combination of paid and volunteer drivers.  </p>
<p>Making a paradigm shift in which our society becomes less &#8220;car centric&#8221; would address environmental concerns as well as the needs of our growing senior citizen population and other segments of our population who either cannot or do not wish to drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hummel</title>
		<link>http://www.aashe.org/blog/campus-operations/its-official-parking-spaces-outnumber-people#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Hummel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great questions, Dave.  I don't have all the answers (hopefully some of our readers can supply more info), but I have a few leads for you:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Check out &lt;a href="http://www.walkscore.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Walk Score&lt;/a&gt;.  It's a very cool new website that allows users to punch in any address in the US and it will calculate the "walkability" of that location.  It uses Google Maps data so it doesn't capture everything, but it is a good start for people and businesses when they are thinking about relocating.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Several websites have lists of most walkable communities.  PBS put out a &lt;a href="http://www.pbs.org/americaswalking/travel/travelmost.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;list of America's Most Walkable Communities&lt;/a&gt;.  RunthePlanet has their own &lt;a href="http://www.runtheplanet.com/trainingracing/training/walkers/americancities.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;Most Walkable Cities list&lt;/a&gt;.  All of them have their shortcomings (for example, Raleigh NC is a walkable city?!!), but they are a good starting place.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As for communities that are doing very intentional planning, check out the book by Spenser Havlick and Will Toor that I mentioned in the post, especially for examples of higher ed communities.  Other than that, somebody else is going to have to help out on that one.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great questions, Dave.  I don&#8217;t have all the answers (hopefully some of our readers can supply more info), but I have a few leads for you:</p>
<p>Check out <a href="http://www.walkscore.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.walkscore.com?referer=');">Walk Score</a>.  It&#8217;s a very cool new website that allows users to punch in any address in the US and it will calculate the &#8220;walkability&#8221; of that location.  It uses Google Maps data so it doesn&#8217;t capture everything, but it is a good start for people and businesses when they are thinking about relocating.</p>
<p>Several websites have lists of most walkable communities.  PBS put out a <a href="http://www.pbs.org/americaswalking/travel/travelmost.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.pbs.org/americaswalking/travel/travelmost.html?referer=');">list of America&#8217;s Most Walkable Communities</a>.  RunthePlanet has their own <a href="http://www.runtheplanet.com/trainingracing/training/walkers/americancities.asp" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.runtheplanet.com/trainingracing/training/walkers/americancities.asp?referer=');">Most Walkable Cities list</a>.  All of them have their shortcomings (for example, Raleigh NC is a walkable city?!!), but they are a good starting place.</p>
<p>As for communities that are doing very intentional planning, check out the book by Spenser Havlick and Will Toor that I mentioned in the post, especially for examples of higher ed communities.  Other than that, somebody else is going to have to help out on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Booth</title>
		<link>http://www.aashe.org/blog/campus-operations/its-official-parking-spaces-outnumber-people#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know of other communities where living without a car is workable?  What does such a community look like?  Are there city planners working to see that new developments have the basic needs of living within walking distance of the dwellings?  I live in a small town (14,000) and don't drive unless I go out of town.  I walk or bicycle in town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know of other communities where living without a car is workable?  What does such a community look like?  Are there city planners working to see that new developments have the basic needs of living within walking distance of the dwellings?  I live in a small town (14,000) and don&#8217;t drive unless I go out of town.  I walk or bicycle in town.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Hummel</title>
		<link>http://www.aashe.org/blog/campus-operations/its-official-parking-spaces-outnumber-people#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Hummel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thought, Steve.  However, freight moving has little to do with parking spaces (for cars).  It also has little do to with the overbuilding of thoroughfares, given that only a small percentage of traffic is dedicated to moving "stuff."  If you take a look at &lt;a href="http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/images/traffic-small.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;traffic photos&lt;/a&gt;, for example, there are only about three or four freight hauling vehicles in the picture.  Most of the traffic is simply moving people (often 1 per car).  That's an incredibly inefficient way to move people (1 ton of steel to move ~150 lbs of person).  I think the visual above makes this pretty clear.  

Also, I should be clear that I never said we wouldn't need roads.  Roads are necessary for the transport of freight and the delivery of many services.  However, we would need a lot less lanes and a lot less surface parking if our cities were planned in such a way that non-freight transportation could be accomplished by walking, biking or using mass transit.  That takes land-use planning and government budgeting that doesn't assume "everyone drives."  

It also involves cancelling our AAA memberships.  AAA is one of the most avid lobbies for paving the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thought, Steve.  However, freight moving has little to do with parking spaces (for cars).  It also has little do to with the overbuilding of thoroughfares, given that only a small percentage of traffic is dedicated to moving &#8220;stuff.&#8221;  If you take a look at <a href="http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/images/traffic-small.jpg" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.worldpopulationbalance.org/images/traffic-small.jpg?referer=');">traffic photos</a>, for example, there are only about three or four freight hauling vehicles in the picture.  Most of the traffic is simply moving people (often 1 per car).  That&#8217;s an incredibly inefficient way to move people (1 ton of steel to move ~150 lbs of person).  I think the visual above makes this pretty clear.  </p>
<p>Also, I should be clear that I never said we wouldn&#8217;t need roads.  Roads are necessary for the transport of freight and the delivery of many services.  However, we would need a lot less lanes and a lot less surface parking if our cities were planned in such a way that non-freight transportation could be accomplished by walking, biking or using mass transit.  That takes land-use planning and government budgeting that doesn&#8217;t assume &#8220;everyone drives.&#8221;  </p>
<p>It also involves cancelling our AAA memberships.  AAA is one of the most avid lobbies for paving the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.aashe.org/blog/campus-operations/its-official-parking-spaces-outnumber-people#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing you missed is the fact that everyone benefits from cars, even if they don't drive.  If we didn't have highways and raods, it would be far more expensive and difficult to deliver the goods and services that improve everyones quality of life.  So, cars aren't all bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing you missed is the fact that everyone benefits from cars, even if they don&#8217;t drive.  If we didn&#8217;t have highways and raods, it would be far more expensive and difficult to deliver the goods and services that improve everyones quality of life.  So, cars aren&#8217;t all bad.</p>
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